i'm struggling to articulate what specifically i'm trying to do. im trying to get the target rotation of the joint by rotating the entire object, so, not getting the target rotation of the joint by setting the target rotation, but getting the target rotation of the joint by rotating the object the joint is attached to. i planned to do this with the rotation data itself but i assumed if the joint rotation angle could be set with the target rotation, you could get the target rotation of the joint based on the angle of the object its attached to. i'm sorry i'm struggling to convey this.